Early Greek Philosophy (Penguin Classics)

The early Greek philosophers, thinkers like Thales, Anaximander, Pythagoras, Parmenides, Zeno, Empedocles, Leucippus, are foundational for the Western intellectual tradition. I couldn't imagine a better book then this one on the subject. Below are a few quotes from Jonathan Barnes's excellent 40 page introduction along with my brief comments:"First and most simply, the Presocratics invented the very idea of science and philosophy. They hit upon that special way of looking at the world which is the scientific and rational way. They saw the world as something ordered and intelligible, its history following an explicable course and its different parts arranged in a comprehensible system. The world was not a random collection of bits, its history was not an arbitrary jumble of events." ---------- This is central to their spirit of inquiry, an approach compatible with a modern physicist or chemist."Nor was the world a series of events determined by the will or the caprice of the gods. The Presocratics were not atheists: they allowed the god into their brave new world, and some of them attempted to produce an improved and rationalized theology in place of the anthropomorphic divinities of the Olympian pantheon. But their theology had little to do with religion, and they removed most of the traditional functions of the gods. Their thunder was no longer the growling of a minatory Zeus." ----------- Again, the Presocratics have kindred spirits in the science departments at modern universities.Jonathan Barnes goes on to write how the Presocratics explained the world in ways that were systematic and economical, that is, these early philosophers wanted to "explain as much as possible in terms of as little as possible." Some of their key concepts were order (kosmos), nature (phusis), origins (arche) , and reason (logos). --------- These Greek words are supercharged with meaning. I used one English word for simplicity sake. How supercharged? The author does a fine job elaborating.The words of the Presocratics have come down to us as fragments. Here are several of my favorites:Xenophanes"But if cows and horses or lions had hands and drew with their hands or made the things men make, then horses would draw the forms of gods like horses, cows like cows, and each would make their bodies similar in shape to their own."Heraclitus"The uncomprehending, when they hear, are like the deaf. To them applies the saying: though present they are absent."Democritus"To a wise man the whole earth is accessible; for the country of a great soul is the whole world.""The desire for more destroys what is present - like Aesop's dog.""One should tell the truth, not speak at length."

Loved this book!!!All the cool Greek stories and heroes and stuff!!! And then of course the boring philosophical stuff that makes up a large portion of the text..it gets into stupid stuff like early atomical theory and proofs for the infinite universe theory..whatever, read it on a plane and didn't even care.

I love this book and everything about it. 10/10 would recommend.

It was a lot to read. Was a lot of "the son of this, who was the son of that, and the son of this who... etc". Other than that, this book offered interesting and important info regarding philosophers and about philosohpy.

It should be noted that there are two works on Presocratic philosophy by Dr. Barnes: this work, and a more esoteric work entitled "The Presocratic Philosophers."That said, this work, the exoteric counterpart, serves is primary purpose: appealing to the general pulic. It features an excellent collection of quotations from a variety of sources. Barnes is cautious about the validity of this sources, and admits their dubious character where necessary. His introduction gives an adequate overview of contemporary scholarship on and interpretations of presocratic thought, and its place in the history of philosophy.The work lacks two things. First, because it is exoteric in its design, it lacks a vigorous interpretation of the texts given, beyond the short introduction. Second, its organization is often inadequate; arranged by subject in some places, and sources in other places. The reader is left to organize and interpret the information much by their own discretion. Whether this is ultimately an advantage or disadvantage, I will not here decide.

The book contains essentially the complete writings of the pre-socratics in readable translation. The actual texts are printed in bold, with commentary by both pagan and Christian writers up to the medieval period. The edotor's own comments are helpful and clear.

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Insightful and a great suppliment for anyone exploring philosophy and spirituality

Une introduction à la fois vivante et bien documentée aux fragments des philosophes présocratiques. Ouvrage relativement récent et malheureusement peu connu en France

Great book....superb...

In this book, Barnes presents an insightful and scholarly account of the different views of the philosophers which preceded the Athenian trio. These works range from the predecessors of Greek philosophy to Diogenes of Apollonia, including many of the greatest thinkers of the era.What is truly refreshing about this work is the citation of actual fragments of work from ancient philosophers, something which has been curiously lacking in the histories of philosophy. The presentation of, arguably, verbatim material gives the reader a greater understanding of the Greeks with whom they engage and allows for the construction of a true 'feel' of the philosophy.The selection within this work is also generous, whilst the majority of the work is concerned with the more plentiful fragments of major names such as Empedocles and Democritus, there is also mention of smaller intermediaries and commentaries on periods of time. These give the work a distinct charm and offer a more complete view of the development of the history of ancient Greek thought.Another great facet of this book is the scholarly nature of the writing, the authenticity of which is rare in philosophy books and once again provides another dimension to the reading.However, there are a few issues which this book encounters. Firstly, and inevitably, there is a confusing use of notation and text style in this work. These are necessary to differentiate between Barnes, commentator and actual Greek philosopher, but nonetheless it can prove troublesome. Furthermore, there is a lack of a concluding section. Whilst this is obviously not a tremendous injustice, Barnes' writing would have been a useful resolution to the book.Overall, this is a great product and one I would thoroughly recommend.

A heavily edited book with virtually nothing about the writers it's supposed to contain.

Book was over charged than printed price.