J-PEIN Flight Simulator Desk Mount (2-Pack), Heavy Duty Steel Stand for HOTAS Joystick and Throttle Systems

7/5/2022 UPDATE - back to 5 stars. Contacted company using their contact form (I did not find a support link) and explained the problem. They responded in about 48 hours requesting my address so they could send a replacement. They sent me 4 replacement parts, and they appear to be upgraded versions. that appear to be unable to crack, being what appears to be metal and nylon. Left (white) was the replacement. I don't know if this new part is going to become standard or not, but it should. UPDATE - after less than 2 weeks the plastic disk on one of the clamp cracked. It is still working, but I have no idea for how much longer. Dropped rating from 5 stars. Ordered 2 sticks from VKB. For simplicity, I was going to order their mounts as well. After doing some research, they were going to be twice as much (almost 3X with shipping.) So I looked for an alternative. These mounts are universal and work well with the sticks. They hold onto the desk extremely well and are a solid, stable platform. The only movement I experience is my my desk, not the mounts. Assembly was pretty easy and took about 30 minutes to do both, just because there are a lot of screws/nuts. These are the best bang for buck mounts that I've found. I don't usually give 5 stars, but these are totally worth it.

First of all for the price you can't go wrong with these mounts. They're an excellent value for what you get...a solid joystick mount that works with a wide variety of Joysticks and HOTAS setups. As others have said the directions are more like schematics. You can certainly figure out how to put it together, but it makes things go about 5 times faster if you watch the jpein youtube video showing how to do it (although that video needs an update as it shows parts that are not in the upgraded unit). The great thing about these mounts is that they're really easy to get the placement and firmness you need. One major gripe I have is that if you own Thrustmaster MFD's there is an included mount, but no instruction on how to install that mount. Nowhere on their website. No youtubes. Nothing. I finally kinda figured it out, but I have no idea if I installed it as it should be installed. The MFD's don't move if I press them, but they're not actually attached to the mount. They're just kind of pushed from the backside as I push the buttons from the front. I think they could have made a much better mount for the MFD's. Overall, though this is a great buy for sim combat pilots wanting some deskspace and a solid set up for their throttles and joysticks. Update: I had reached out to the manufacturer about the MFD mounting instructions and they sent the attached photos. Pretty straightforward if you look at the bar mount across the bass of the MFD. You would utilize the long bolt that's included in the kit to attach and lock it down. It holds the MFD's firmly. This photo should be in the manual or at least on the website in an FAQ, but it's currently not. Still I'm grateful for the quick support turnaround. Hope this helps someone who is stuck!

I've seen the negative reviews and seen the pictures associated with them. They're old reviews based on an old models. The model I'm reviewing is the one with the L-shaped brackets in the picture colored in red. No pictures because I'm lazy. Sorry, not sorry. Pros: -- These mounts are SOLID. The toggle clamps are great. When mounted to my desk, they don't wobble AT ALL. The grips grip well and the clamps don't need much pressure to hold. -- This mount should be able to mount quite literally anything you have due to the adjustable universal mounting brackets they've engineered, and how you mount them nothing should protrude out the sides of your sticks or throttles to jab you in the legs. It should be flush. -- The hardware that comes with the mounts are magnetic, meaning either steel or one of the variants of ferritic or martensitic stainless steels. -- The top part of the mount allows for mounting of other peripherals such as MFDs, holders for phones and tablets, button boxes, or whatever else you wanted to mount to it. Cons: -- It's extremely fiddly to put together, however based on the look of all the other mounts on Amazon, those ones are too. -- There were some QC issues with two pieces of hardware: A single screw which was cut about 2-3mm shorter than the others of the same size and one of the sliding T-nuts was tapped incorrectly and stripped as it was smooth where the threads would be. Neither of these two cons are a dealbreaker for me. Follow the Youtube instructions and you shouldn't have any issues. I would absolutely buy these mounts again.

I cannot believe I'm actually writing a review on amazon. A first. From what I can tell, the current listing is a very different mount than what it used to be, which means older reviews are for a very different, and from what I can tell a much better, product. The mount is incompatible with the Thrustmaster warthog and there's no way to make it work. There's no physical instructions, just a youtube video. Its a pain in the butt to get together, taking me (someone who is pretty good at putting random crap together) almost 2 hours for 1 mount. They include a host of random nuts, bolts, and washers. But without any instructions its impossible to know what they are for. They clearly are not for mounting the HOTAS onto the mount because there's only 2 each except for one of the screw sizes has 4. Just overall a complete waste of time and money. There's other better cheap options.

Very Good Quality! Highly recommended for flight sims

Bought for a center mount joystick setup for Flight Simming and it works beautifully. It's rock solid when attached to my desk, I notice zero movement at all, and does not seem to be damaging my desk in any way. I use my desk for both work and play, and the J Pein is perfect since I can attach or remove my joystick in less than 15 seconds. Then I just stick it on the floor below the desk and it's out of sight. Assembly was straightforward enough, if you're completely hopeless with tools you might struggle a bit, but anyone who has ever built a Lego set or something from Ikea should be able to handle this. There were a few bits in the box that weren't mentioned anywhere in the instructions, although they are obviously not critical to the function of the product as I simply left them in the box and haven't had any issues. But maybe a rewrite of the instructions would be a good idea going forward. It's also completely adjustable so that you can get your stick exactly where you need it to be. Also offers fantastic value vs. the competitors, and comes with all the extra screws you need to attach most sticks and throttles to the universal mounting plate, so no need to buy a different plate if I get a different joystick in the future.

It was a bit difficult to assemble, but I finally finished it. It's really firmly fixed.

Die Halterungen werden gut verpackt mit einer Unzahl an Schrauben und Muttern geliefert. Ein gedruckte Anleitung ist nicht dabei. Auf der Verpackung ist allerdings ein QR-Code aufgedruckt, der zu einem sehr guten YT-Video führt, das den Zusammebau sehr ausführlich zeigt. Das dürfte dann auch wirklich JEDER hinbekommen. Ohne dieses Video halte ich den Zusammenbau für fas unmöglich ;-) Wenn man dem Video folgt, passt alles perfekt und saugend schmatzend :-) Ich hatte die Halterungen für den WinCTL Ursa Sidestick und die WinCTL-Throttle-Einheit (ehemals WinWing) gekauft und war zunächst skeptisch, ob das wirklich passt. Die HAletrungen von WinCTL sind deutlich teurer. Es liegen aber so viele Schrauben und Schienen mit dabei, dass es absolut kein Problem war die beiden Komponenten zu befestigen. PRIMA!!! Durch das Schienenystem der Halterungen müsste man eigentlich jede erdenkliche Hardwarkombination befestigt bekommen. Die Halterungen machen einen wirklich guten Eindruck und die Einzelteile sind sehr gut verarbeitet. Sie halten bombenfest an meinem Schreibtisch. Die schwarz-rote Kombination wirkt dabei sehr edel und anmutig. Ich habe den Kauf nicht bereut und spreche eine klare Kaufempfehlung aus.

Used it for a couple of weeks now and very comfortable to write this review. The manufacturer had certainly take the feedback of customers constructively and improved this product significantly. Especially on the vertical support which is now a robust single aluminum structure. While the assembly may look complex, it is a well engineered product that is flexible and highly adjustable to satisfy every whim of a serious Sim fan. Not to mention it also looks gorgeous. Understand the price is more attractive than the alternative (for serious Sim Fan), only non-breaking gripe is still the price. It took me a while to take the plunge, and I am very satisfied with the purchase. But as mentioned, it is for the serious Sim fan. Good job to the manufacturer and continue to listen to the feedback of your customers and improve your product,